Pioneer Champion Sub
what size amp do i need for 2 12” pioneer sub-woofers ( TS-W308D4 )?
12″ Dual 4 ohm Champion Series Subwoofer
Power Handling:
Peak: 1400 watts
RMS: 400 watts
the size of the amp depends on how they are wired to the amp (the final impedance also known as ohms)
the lower the final impedance (ohms) at the amp the lower the sound quality but the easier/cheaper it is to power– most CEA-compliant brand amps are not stable below 2ohms so they will run hot, go into protection mode and sound distorted
if the amp is stable at 1ohm it will say so
make sure the amp is CEA-compliant which means that the amps have been tested and produce or exceed the advertised RMS wattage with minimum distortion (distortion is the main cause of speaker damage over time)
so the amp needed should have about 800watts RMS total (use a mono/block {1-channel} amp) at your desired final impedance and be CEA-compliant
If you send too much power to your sub, you risk damaging it. The cone of the speaker and the mechanical parts that make it move may break under the stress. Surprisingly, too little power can also damage your subwoofer — in fact, it’s actually more common than damage caused by overpowering.
When the volume is turned up and the amp doesn’t have enough power, the signal becomes distorted, or “clipped.” This distorted signal can cause parts of the speaker to overheat, warp and melt. Not good!
You don’t have to match speaker and amp wattages exactly. An amp with a higher output than the speaker’s rating won’t necessarily damage the speaker — just turn the amp down a bit if you hear distortion from the sub and don’t run the speaker at extremely loud volumes for lengthy periods. Likewise, you’ll be OK with a lower powered amp if you keep the volume down and don’t feed a distorted signal to the sub
you will send the amp into clipping
Clipping
Clipping occurs when an amplifier is asked to deliver more current to a speaker than the amp is capable of doing. When an amplifier clips, it literally cuts off the tops and bottoms of the musical waveforms that it’s trying to reproduce, thus the term. This introduces a huge amount of distortion into the output signal. Clipping can be heard as a crunching sound on musical peaks.
that causes distorted sound which will damage your subs over time
here are the top CEA-compliant brands
Alpine
Bazooka
Blaupunkt
Clarion
Infinity
JBL
JL Audio
JVC
Kenwood
Kicker
MTX
Orion
Pioneer
Polk Audio
Rockford Fosgate
Sony
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